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[Bonus Content] S3 Ep7 The Lie of Separation

If fear keeps us striving, isolating, and self-protecting, what story are we actually living inside?

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S3 Ep7 Courageous Identity

What if courage doesn’t begin with trying harder—but with remembering who you are?

In this episode of Called Beyond, Tim is joined by Jamie Winship and Norris Williams for a conversation rooted in Romans 8:15–17 and centered around on one critical question for all of us to consider:

What are you afraid of right now?

Together, Jamie and Norris explore the difference between living from fear and living from the freedom of our identity as sons and daughters of God. They unpack how fear fuels performance, self-protection, and false identity—and how the Spirit of adoption invites us into a different way of living marked by truth, humility, freedom, and courage.

This conversation is for anyone who feels stuck in striving, weary from performing, or unsure how to hear God’s voice in the middle of ordinary life. If fear has been shaping your decisions more than you’d like to admit, this episode offers a better starting point: not proving yourself to God, but receiving from the Father who already calls you his own.

In this episode

• Why fear and love lead us in radically different directions
• How performance can become a form of spiritual slavery
• The connection between fear, false identity, and self-protection
• Why courage isn’t proving yourself—it’s believing what is true
• How God meets us in our fear with his presence rather than a formula
• What it looks like to live as a beloved son or daughter

Key takeaway

Fear closes us off to God, to others, and even to ourselves. But the Spirit of adoption tells a different story. When we live from our true identity as sons and daughters of God, we no longer have to perform, protect, or prove ourselves. Courage grows as we receive what is true and trust that God is with us.

Featured Guests

Jamie Winship has spent decades helping people discover their true identity, overcome fear, and navigate conflict with wisdom and courage. A former law enforcement officer, his work has taken him from local communities to some of the world’s most challenging conflict regions. Today, Jamie coaches leaders across business, government, education, sports, and ministry. He is the author of Living Fearless and The War of Worldviews, and co-founded Identity Exchange with his wife, Donna.

Norris Williams has spent more than five decades helping people discover their true identity and live with greater freedom, courage, and purpose. As part of Novo’s global partner team, he works alongside national leaders around the world, helping identify, develop, and support disciple-making movements. With experience spanning agriculture, professional sports, ranching, biblical studies, and mentorship, Norris brings a rare blend of wisdom, humility, and practical insight to his work.

Related Resources

• Living Fearless by Jamie Winship
• The War of Worldviews by Jamie Winship

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S3 Ep6 The Health of Our Roots

What makes spiritual roots healthy enough to withstand life's droughts and storms?

In this episode of Called Beyond, Tim sits down with longtime Novo missionaries Steve Hoke and Myra Perrine to explore the powerful imagery of Jeremiah 17:7–8.

Drawing from decades of ministry experience, Steve and Myra reflect on the importance of trust, authenticity, vulnerability, and abiding in God's love as essential foundations for a life that bears lasting fruit.

Together, they share personal stories of hardship, healing, and spiritual formation, revealing how God often deepens our roots through seasons we would never choose for ourselves.

Whether you're walking through a difficult season or simply longing to grow deeper in your relationship with Jesus, this conversation offers wisdom and encouragement for cultivating healthy roots that endure.

Episode Highlights

• Why drought seasons can deepen our trust in God
• The connection between vulnerability and spiritual growth
• Learning to process pain instead of hiding it
• Trust as the "taproot" of faith
• How abiding in God's love transforms us from the inside out
• The role of authentic community in spiritual formation
• What it means to cultivate healthy roots that produce lasting fruit

Key Scripture

Jeremiah 17:7–8 (NLT)

"But blessed are those who trust in the Lord and have made the Lord their hope and confidence. They are like trees planted along a riverbank, with roots that reach deep into the water..."

Guest Bios

Steve Hoke has served with Novo for more than three decades, helping develop leaders, strengthen ministry teams, and equip disciple-makers around the world. A gifted teacher, mentor, and author, Steve is passionate about helping people experience the transforming grace of God and discover deeper levels of trust and dependence on Jesus.

Myra Perrine has served with Novo for more than 30 years, investing in the spiritual formation and development of ministry leaders around the world. Known for her wisdom, authenticity, and commitment to helping others experience God's love, Myra has spent decades mentoring, training, and encouraging people toward deeper intimacy with Christ.

S3 Ep5 Rooted in the Nations

In this episode of Called Beyond, Tim sits down with Will Jones, the founder of GoEthne, a ministry focused on evangelism, disciple-making, and equipping the local church for mission among the nations.

Through an honest and deeply moving conversation centered around Psalm 67, Will shares how God redirected the trajectory of his life.

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S3 Ep4 Rooted to Multiply

In this episode of Called Beyond Tim sits down with Cynthia Anderson, a missionary, trainer, and host of the Dare to Multiply podcast. Together, they explore what it means to remain rooted in Jesus and how a life of abiding naturally leads to multiplication.

From her upbringing in Nigeria to decades of ministry across Asia and beyond, Cynthia shares powerful stories of how God uses ordinary obedience to produce extraordinary, multiplying fruit. Whether it’s launching an online training that reached thousands across 122 nations or discipling new believers in unexpected places, her story points to one central truth: lasting fruit flows from staying connected to Jesus.

Episode Highlights

• Why abiding in Jesus—not skill or strategy—is the foundation of multiplication
• How God uses ordinary people to spark extraordinary movements
• The story behind a global disciple-making training that reached 5,000+ people in 122 nations
• A powerful full-circle moment: returning to Nigeria to see fruit among her father’s people group
• What it looks like to recognize and respond to “persons of peace”
• Why many Western believers are underestimating their role in disciple-making
• The importance of community in staying rooted and walking in step with Jesus

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S3 Ep3 Rooted in Christ, Courageous Obedience

What does it look like to be deeply rooted in Christ in the middle of everyday life?

In this episode, Caleb and Ashley Farnworth share how learning to listen to the Holy Spirit has transformed ordinary, everyday moments. Parent-teacher conferences, dental appointments, and normal daily rhythms with their kids have become opportunities for Kingdom impact.

Through simple obedience, the Farnworths have found that courage exists on the other side of trusting that God will speak and move as we step out in faith. From praying with patients, to raising kids who boldly practice healing prayer, this conversation explores how a life rooted in Christ produces courage and compassion towards others.

As we are rooted in Christ, our lives become places where the Spirit moves freely—bringing hope, healing, and transformation to those around us.

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S3 Ep2 Courageously Take Root

What does it look like to live with courage when life—and ministry—doesn’t go according to plan?

In this second episode of Season 3, Tim Shuck sits down with returning guest Darren Prince to reflect on Joshua 1:9 and explore how courage is formed through the steady, reassuring presence of God with us.

Drawing from nearly two decades of ministry in East London, Darren shares how his team has navigated major transitions—shifting communities, changing team dynamics, and an uncertain future. Instead of clinging to their original plans, they chose to follow where God was already at work.

This conversation invites us to see courage not as boldness or certainty, but as a daily choice rooted in the promises of God.

Key Highlights:

• Why the phrase “God is with you” is the foundation of true courage
• How to discern whether to stay the course or follow where God is moving
• Choosing courage in seasons that feel like loss or transition
• The shift from building programs to investing in people
• How everyday rhythms and community help sustain a courageous life

Wherever you find yourself today—facing uncertainty, transition, or a difficult decision—remember:

You are not alone.

God is with you.
And because of that, you can take the next step with courage.

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S3 Ep1 The Courage to be Uprooted

What does it take to say yes to Jesus when it means leaving comfort behind?

In this first episode of Season 3, Tim Shuck is joined by Cheryl Fletcher and Matt Weston to reflect on Luke 5:1–11 and the moment Jesus called the first disciples to leave everything and follow Him. Together, they share personal stories of unexpected turning points, difficult seasons, and the courage it takes to trust God one step at a time.

This conversation sets the tone for Season 3 by helping us see that courage doesn’t always feel bold in the moment, but it often leads to deeper roots in Jesus.

Episode Highlights

• Why courage often begins with discomfort
• The moment Peter left everything to follow Jesus—and what that means for us today
• What happens when you say yes to God and things don’t turn out the way you expected
• How God often reveals only the next step, not the whole plan
• The difference between reckless faith and courageous obedience
• How seasons of loss and uncertainty can deepen intimacy with Jesus
• Why the courageous choice is often the one that stretches you most

Featured Guests

Cheryl Fletcher (Novo Board Member & Pastor-in-Residence at APU)
Cheryl shares powerful reflections from decades of ministry, including the courage it took to leave a stable church role and step into the unknown—just weeks before the world shut down in 2020. Her story is a reminder that obedience isn’t measured by outcomes, but by intimacy with Jesus.

Matt Weston (Novo's Chief Operating Officer)
Matt talks honestly about leaving a secure ministry role to join Novo and the difficult season that followed when plans didn’t unfold the way he expected. His story highlights how God often uses disruption to form our identity more deeply.

[Bonus Content] S2 Ep12 The Goodness of God in the Midst of Tragedy

This clip features bonus content from Season 2 Episode 12.

During this portion of Tim's conversation with Jacquie she details her family's recent experiences of loss through the wildfires that ravaged Southern California earlier this year. Jacquie's inspiring testimony bears witness to how her family has experienced God's kindness and provision in the midst of a devastating tragedy.

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S2 Ep12 Understanding True Freedom

In this final episode of Season 2, Tim interviews Jacquie Aufhammer, who shares her inspiring journey of faith, transformation, and resilience.

During the conversation Jacquie reflects on the profound impact of inner healing prayer in her life, while also discussing the true meaning of our freedom in Christ. As Jacquie shares her story she describes her passion for empowering women in the church and explains how she's begun reimagining her everyday spaces as contexts for engaging in mission.

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